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Chapter 30 · Advanced Indicators

Combining indicators without repeating yourself

Four questions, one tool each, and how to tell whether two indicators are actually saying the same thing.

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The four families

Trendwhich way?MA, MACD, ADXMomentumhow fast?RSI, StochasticVolatilityhow far?ATR, BollingerVolumehow real?OBV, VWAPall four are computed from the same price and volume
Almost every indicator answers one of four questions. Stacking several from the same family is one opinion repeated, not four opinions agreeing.

Adding a sixth indicator to a chart does not add a sixth opinion. Almost all of them are transformations of the same five numbers — open, high, low, close, volume — so most combinations are one view, repeated, wearing different colours.

Four questions, and one tool for each

QuestionFamilyOne reasonable choice
Which way?Trend200-day and 50-day averages
How strong?Trend strengthADX
How fast, and is it fading?MomentumRSI, read for divergence
How far does it move?VolatilityATR
How much agreement is behind it?VolumeVolume vs its own average

That is five readings from five genuinely different inputs. Adding Stochastic to RSI, or CCI to both, adds nothing — all three are computed from the same closes and move together.

A test for redundancy you can actually run

  1. 1Plot the two indicators on the same chart over a year.
  2. 2Mark every point where each gives its signal.
  3. 3If they mark the same days, one of them is decoration.
  4. 4Keep the one you understand well enough to know when it fails.

Worked: a checklist that resolves rather than accumulates

CheckReadingVerdict
Price vs 200-day452 vs 405 — abovePrimary trend up
ADX(14)31A real trend is present
RSI(14)58, no divergenceMomentum intact
Volume on the last advance1.6× its 20-day averageParticipation confirms
ATR(14)Rs 12 → 2× ATR stop is Rs 24Stop at 428, size 416 shares

Five checks, five different inputs, and each one produced a decision rather than a feeling. Note that the last check is the only one that produced a number you can act on — the others decide whether to act at all.

When indicators disagree

  • Disagreement is the information. Trend up, volume falling means an advance without participation — that is worth knowing, not worth resolving by adding a third tool.
  • Adding indicators until they agree is how people talk themselves into trades. Stop at four.
  • If two must be weighted, prefer the one from the higher timeframe and the one measuring participation over the one measuring price alone.

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